Wise Little League Football sign-ups

**StateChamps92** · July 31st, 2007, 11:13 AM

We played in house up until last season. I coached in it, but never liked it. My biggest complaint was this: You play the same team every week. If you won or lost, you worked on the same thing and never found your true weak spots or strong spots. We may have been able to run quick pitch left all night, but what if our opponent didn't have the ability to contain. Does that mean we were blessed with speed? Not really, because we were able to scrimmage other teams a couple of times and had it handed to us because they were strong were our opponent had been weak. I'm a big fan of our "little LPD". The kids get a charge out of playing at other places like the high school kids. There were about 90 kids last season, so the 100+ is not out of the real of possibility. The more kids we have, the less that are at home on the computer of video game consoles. I love video games, but you need some physical activity.
As for the batting cage, how many state titles did Kelly win WITHOUT the batting cage up there. I think it was a bad idea and the money could have bought some new equipment to replace that "rag-tag" garbage we had this season. I had to super glue our catchers helmet twice. But who knows.

**Unchained** · July 31st, 2007, 11:17 AM

I know from watching my eldest play that playing "The other Wise" after the second time kinda lost its luster. He gets considerably more fired up playing kids from other places. I like the way that it is now much better (plus it removes some of the stupid internal bickering)

**imported_Sportsfan** · July 31st, 2007, 11:32 AM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TheBeast</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> and all the little league baseball kids are trophy-less.</div></div>

There should only be trophies for the league champion, all this participation trophie garbage is BS. Why all the rewards for not winning. </div></div>

1. We parents pay for the trophies, that's part of the fees that we pay.

2. Our kids earn those trophies, I don't care if they win every game or none. They are out there doing the job, not us.

**imported_Counts** · July 31st, 2007, 11:36 AM

I can see your point 2 teams would not be enough I think 4 teams would be the magic number.

**Unchained** · July 31st, 2007, 11:39 AM

The Little League baseballers are still waiting on their trophies. The league says it is broke. I wonder where the $35 reg fee that we paid went? That money is for insurance AND trophies.

**imported_Sportsfan** · July 31st, 2007, 11:47 AM

And another thing. You try looking into the faces of 5, 6, 7 year old kids at the end of the season, and tell them good job and that's it. Not too many kids would want to play.
When they get those trophies, their little faces light up, they think they've really done something. Yeah, when they are older, they have to work very hard to get any awards for their efforts. But I guarantee, when they become parents, they will remember what it felt like when they were young, and just starting to play sports, and how it felt to get their first trophy. I would hazzard a guess to say that the joy a 5 year old feels with his first, is pretty close to a senior getting the MVP.

**imported_elp6n** · July 31st, 2007, 11:52 AM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And another thing. You try looking into the faces of 5, 6, 7 year old kids at the end of the season, and tell them good job and that's it. Not too many kids would want to play.
When they get those trophies, their little faces light up, they think they've really done something.</div></div>

Why make them THINK they've done something when in reality they've not earned a winners trophy?? That's teaching them absolutely nothing. This is supposed to be a learning experience.

And if "good job" isn't enough for a kid on a losing team, then that's really sad. It goes back to the instant gratification and the development of the "me me me" generation.

When I was in school if a team/group I was in didn't win, then we just didn't win and hoped for better next time around. It made us work harder. It encouraged teamwork and hard work. And for the winners, their win is greatly dimished because even the losers are told they're winners.

Kids are being ruined and turned into horrible people by being told they're entitled to everything and they're always great and perfect and wonderful.

Why not have them EARN things anymore??
Is it worse to raise an earner, a goal maker? Or a kid who thinks he's prince of all he sees, with his hand sticking out all the time?

**imported_MoonlightGraham** · July 31st, 2007, 11:56 AM

I've heard college coaches talk about the best strategy for little leaguers is to play the entire regular season maybe 20 games...and thas it. no all stars, no travel team. the philosphy behind this is, everyone is an allstar, thus everyone comes back next year.

but i dunno.

Why don't you play 8 man football at Wise then? You would have alot more teams, and you would not have to travel. With 8 men football it forces people to make tackles. It forces people to pick up blocks. And it forces coaches to let everyone play.

But what do I know?

**TheBeast** · July 31st, 2007, 12:03 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: elp6n</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And another thing. You try looking into the faces of 5, 6, 7 year old kids at the end of the season, and tell them good job and that's it. Not too many kids would want to play.
When they get those trophies, their little faces light up, they think they've really done something.</div></div>

Why make them THINK they've done something when in reality they've not earned a winners trophy?? That's teaching them absolutely nothing. This is supposed to be a learning experience.

And if "good job" isn't enough for a kid on a losing team, then that's really sad. It goes back to the instant gratification and the development of the "me me me" generation.

When I was in school if a team/group I was in didn't win, then we just didn't win and hoped for better next time around. It made us work harder. And for the winners, their win is greatly dimished because even the losers are told they're winners.

Kids are being ruined and turned into horrible people by being told they're entitled to everything and they're always great and perfect and wonderful.

Why not have them EARN things anymore??
Is it worse to raise an earner, a goal maker? Or a kid who thinks he's prince of all he sees, with his hand sticking out all the time? </div></div>

Exactly why would you want to instil false hope and deceive them into thinking they've done something when they haven't.

**imported_Sportsman** · July 31st, 2007, 12:08 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DaneCook</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've heard college coaches talk about the best strategy for little leaguers is to play the entire regular season maybe 20 games...and thas it. no all stars, no travel team. the philosphy behind this is, everyone is an allstar, thus everyone comes back next year.

but i dunno.

Why don't you play 8 man football at Wise then? You would have alot more teams, and you would not have to travel. With 8 men football it forces people to make tackles. It forces people to pick up blocks. And it forces coaches to let everyone play.

But what do I know? </div></div>

I agree.....what do you know? Just kidding big guy.

Not a bad idea, 8-on-8, make the field a bit smaller too. Ever watch a basketball game between players between ages 5-9? Everybody flocks to the ball, 10 players in an 8 foot radius. I've always said youth basketball programs for K-3 should not be 5-on-5. They should be 3-on-3 or 4-on-4 at the most. You can't develop much skill if 7-8 other people are trying to take the ball away from you.